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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Rhode Island’s Department of Environmental Management works with brewers to develop tailor-made plans to reduce the amount of harmful wastewater coming out of their breweries. On this episode of Possibly we visit Buttonwoods Brewery in Providence to u...</p>
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<p>Rhode Island’s Department of Environmental Management works with brewers to develop tailor-made plans to reduce the amount of harmful wastewater coming out of their breweries. On this episode of Possibly we visit Buttonwoods Brewery in Providence to understand what’s going on.</p>
<p><strong>Megan Hall:</strong> Welcome to Possibly, where we take on huge problems like the future of our planet and break them down into small questions with unexpected answers. I’m Megan Hall.</p>
<p>Last year, the Rhode Island Department of Environmental Management got a <a href="https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/biden-harris-administration-announces-rhode-island-department-environmental-management">grant</a> to reduce the environmental impact of the state’s craft beer industry.</p>
<p>That led us at Possibly to say, wait a minute, making craft beer affects the environment? So we sent Samantha Zhang and Nat Hardy from the Possibly team to see what’s going on.</p>
<p><strong>Samantha Zhang</strong>: Hi Megan!</p>
<p><strong>Nat Hardy</strong>: Hello!</p>
<p><strong>Megan Hall:</strong> So, does making craft beer really affect the environment in a major way? Or was this just an excuse to hang out in a brewery?</p>
<p><strong>Samantha Zhang</strong>: Not the worst assignment.  But yeah, making beer can create some environmental problems.</p>
<p><strong>Megan Hall:</strong> But, craft beer? Isn’t that like tiny businesses?</p>
<p><strong>Nat Hardy</strong>: Yes, but they add up. Here in Rhode Island, <a href="https://www.ripbs.org/food-drink/some-rhode-island-craft-brewers-say-state-regulations-throttle-their-businesses">the craft beverage industry has expanded really quickly over the past decade</a>. Right now, there are <a href="https://www.brewersassociation.org/statistics-and-data/state-craft-beer-stats/?state=RI">42 breweries</a> in the state.</p>
<p><strong>Megan Hall</strong>: So, how do they affect the environment?</p>
<p><strong>Samantha Zhang</strong>: First, <a href="https://ocw.un-ihe.org/pluginfile.php/3057/mod_folder/content/0/Brewery/Environmental_Challenges_in_Breweries.pdf">you need a lot of water to brew beer.</a></p>
<p><strong>Nat Hardy</strong>: And it takes <a href="https://ocw.un-ihe.org/pluginfile.php/3057/mod_folder/content/0/Brewery/Environmental_Challenges_in_Breweries.pdf">a lot of energy to process the ingredients</a>, which can mean high carbon emissions.</p>
<p><strong>Samantha Zhang</strong>: But one of the biggest problems has to do with wastewater:</p>
<p><strong>Nat Hardy</strong>: We saw this problem pop up after an incident in Vermont in 2018. <a href="https://www.wcax.com/content/news/Whats-behind-Burlington-wastewater-spills-484901121.html">More than a million gallons</a> of wastewater, <a href="https://www.vermontpublic.org/2022-11-17/transcript-how-vermont-breweries-manage-wastewater">some of it from breweries in the state</a>, was released into Lake Champlain.</p>
<p><strong>Samantha Zhang</strong>: The water was so polluted, <a href="https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2018/06/25/burlingtons-breweries-blamed-wastewater-leaks-closed-beaches/730413002/">a lot of beaches had to close</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Megan Hall:</strong> Ok, so why do breweries create so much wastewater?</p>
<p><strong>Samantha Zhang:</strong> To find out,  we talked with Michele McCaughey who works at the Rhode Island Department of Environmental Management.</p>
<p><strong>Michele McCaughey</strong>: Breweries tend to discharge high strength wastewater, which may have the potential to cause upsets at wastewater treatment facilities.</p>
<p><strong>Megan Hall</strong>: What does she mean by “high strength wastewater?” Is it just really concentrated stuff?</p>
<p><strong>Nat Hardy:</strong> Yeah that’s part of it, But<a href="https://efc.sog.unc.edu/low-stress-solutions-for-high-strength-wastewater/"> the water from breweries also contains materials that are especially difficult to process at wastewater treatment facilities</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Samantha Zhang</strong>: The water might have a lot of sediment in it.</p>
<p><strong>Nat Hardy:</strong> Or lots of greases and oils.</p>
<p><strong>Samantha Zhang</strong>: But maybe the biggest concern when it comes to breweries is that there’s something <em>living</em> in the wastewater.</p>
<p><strong>Megan Hall: </strong>Like, what?</p>
<p><strong>Morgan Snyder</strong> Beer is an organic product. It’s a food product. It’s basically just that you’re making 1000s of loaves of bread at a singular time.</p>
<p><strong>Nat Hardy:</strong> That’s Morgan Snyder, the founder of Buttonwoods Brewery, a craft brewery in Providence, Rhode Island. He says to make that liquid bread, you need an organism: yeast!</p>
<p><strong>Morgan Snyder:</strong> That is the biggest part of our process. Without it, we can’t make beer.</p>
<p><strong>Samantha Zhang: </strong>But when extra water from the beer-making process arrives at wastewater treatment plants with <a href="https://www.des.nh.gov/sites/g/files/ehbemt341/files/documents/2020-01/wastewater-bmps-breweries.pdf">lots of yeast</a> in it, it causes a problem.</p>
<p><strong>Megan Hall: </strong>Why?</p>
<p><strong>Nat Hardy:</strong> Yeast is an organism that consumes oxygen. And when <a href="https://aosts.com/biochemical-oxygen-demand-bod-in-wastewater-treatment/">yeast eats up the oxygen in a waste water treatment plant,</a> it messes with <a href="https://asm.org/articles/2020/april/how-microbes-help-us-reclaim-our-wastewater">the microbes that the plants use to clean our sewage</a>. It basically takes over the treatment plant.</p>
<p><strong>Samantha Zhang</strong>: <a href="https://www.vermontpublic.org/2022-11-17/transcript-how-vermont-breweries-manage-wastewater">That’s what happened in Burlington, Vermont</a> in 2018 – They were forced to dump untreated sewage into Lake Champlain.</p>
<p><strong>Megan Hall</strong>: Woah. What are breweries doing to deal with this?</p>
<p><strong>Nat Hardy</strong>: Well it can be expensive to study and address these issues. And for small breweries, like Morgan’s Buttonwoods Brewery, they don’t have a lot of extra cash to spend.</p>
<p><strong>Samantha Zhang</strong>: So the Rhode Island Department of Environmental Management used <a href="https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/biden-harris-administration-announces-rhode-island-department-environmental-management">EPA funding</a> to help them reduce their wastewater.</p>
<p><strong>Nat Hardy:</strong> The <a href="https://dem.ri.gov/environmental-protection-bureau/customer-and-technical-assistance/green-certification-programs-green-brewery">department partners</a> with individual breweries to study their operations and make a list of possible sustainable changes.</p>
<p><strong>Michele McCaughey</strong>: Basically, the list it provides like a starting point for breweries to choose their own unique sustainability path based on their operation.</p>
<p><strong>Samantha Zhang: </strong>At Buttonwoods Brewery, <a href="https://dem.ri.gov/sites/g/files/xkgbur861/files/2024-03/ButtonwoodsBrewingCS.pdf">that meant coming up with some affordable options to prevent organic waste</a>, like yeast, from entering the wastewater stream.</p>
<p><strong>Nat Hardy: </strong>But the solutions to reducing the environmental impact of craft brewing looks different at each brewery, both in Rhode Island, and around the country.</p>
<p><strong>Megan Hall:</strong> Great! Thanks, Nat and Samantha! And thanks to Charlie Adams for contributing to the reporting on this episode.</p>
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